I received word about this sermon through an email from a
young man who actually heard the sermon live. He also told
me that it was aired on television and I should check it out.
I understand the "old time religion" school of thought that
Apostle Murray comes from. It's what he was brought up on,
and for him it has worked. So, "old school" as us young folks
call it really isn't all bad. It's the foundation on which
we stand. Therefore we should not despise it. We should thank
God for it and continue to move forward in our quest to know
more of God and His love for all humanity. Apostle Murray
proves with this sermon that with the knowledge that we now
have of God, the "old school" dogma that he still believes
ain't gon' fly in this day and age. He proves that "old time
religion" may have worked back then, but it doesn't now. The
foundation (which SHOULD BE JESUS) is the same, but the materials
used today to build houses are a little different from back
Most of what is said in this sermon, I just shrugged my shoulders
and discounted it as ignorance. But, ignorance is STILL ignorance
no matter how sanctified or old you are. And the only excuse
for ignorance is that information has been IGNORED. One of
the first things Apostle Murray says in his opening is, "faith
(laymen's terms: believing) comes by hearing, and hearing
by the Word of God" (keep that in mind). He takes his text,
and a "reader" (for you non-COGIC people, a person who reads
the text for the speaker) reads the text while he (the apostle)
echoes every word. Apostle Murray goes on to talk about how
God is a holy God who hates sin and will not put up with it.
But God will deliver you if you really want to be delivered.
He says that the people of God must be mindful of the fact
that God is more than just a God of Love, but there is another
side to Him. He (the apostle) says that God DOES love everyone
and has gone through great trouble to deliver everyone from
hell. But a filthy man cannot have relationship with a holy
He moves into Romans 1 (like we haven't heard THAT before)
and proceeds with his literal translation of "The Word of
God" to drive his point home. Apostle Murray makes the inference
that men and women are gay and lesbian because they have rejected
God and knowledge of Him. They would rather believe a lie
than the truth and for that reason God has given them up.
It's almost like saying that being an SGL person is a form
of punishment. So, what does that say about the SGL people
at his church? And TRUST ME, there are LOTS of 'em! As he
talks about the whole "holiness" issue, I actually agreed
with most of what he had to say. How when a person is saved,
their lifestyle changes. They don't do things they used to
do. They don't participate in things that aren't conducive
to a healthy relationship with God. There ARE a few points
that I categorically disagree with him about. Now, follow
me here. It's gonna get kinda ugly.
The first thing he said is "faith comes by hearing and hearing
by the Word of God"…remember that? Well, that being the case
I got an issue I need cleared up. Like I said, there are LOTS
of gays and lesbians that are members of FGHT, and are faithful,
TITHE-PAYING members. Now, if they are coming to FGHT, and
are "hearing" the truth (which, according to the Bible, will
make you free), but they are bound by a "homosexual spirit",
what does that say about the ministry at FGHT? If faith (believing)
comes by hearing and the truth is being preached and heard,
then people should be being set free from their bondage right?
But since the people attending are STILL GAY, and by the church's
definition are "bound by a homosexual spirit" then that means
either they AREN'T bound, or the TRUTH is indeed NOT BEING
PREACHED at FGHT because again….they are STILL GAY!
Then he says…"You gotta go beyond the cross, you can't just
stop there. Coming to the cross ain't enough." Okay….so the
cross of Jesus Christ isn't enough for us to be saved? If
THAT ain't enough, then what is? What are we even doing this
for? Jesus' sacrifice was to provide a FREE GIFT called "salvation".
Upon receipt of that gift, WE ARE SAVED! And according to
the Bible, saved people are going to Heaven. The Bible says
"if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe
in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, YOU SHALL
BE SAVED!" The Bible ALSO says "For by Grace are ye saved
through Faith and that not of yourselves. It is the gift of
God. NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast." So, what Jesus
did on the cross indeed was enough to save humanity and there's
nothing else that needs to be done for salvation to occur.
If it wasn't enough, then we're ALL going to hell because
works ain't good enough.
Next, we'll deal with this holiness issue. According to Apostle
Murray the Bible says to "come out from among them and be
separated" (and the Bible does say that), because holy people
don't have fellowship with unholy people. So why are there
so many gays and lesbians or unholy people fellowshipping
with FGHT AKA holy people? Either the gays and lesbians who
believe are indeed holy like er'body else at FGHT or the entire
membership isn't holy at all because they're all fellowshipping
with each other. Furthermore, if gays and lesbians are bringing
filth into the "house of God", why are they still allowed
to come? If God has rejected them and is finished dealing
with them, why is FGHT still allowing them to come to church?
Aren't God's people supposed to be separated from the unholy
people? Don't God's people DO what God DOES (reject people)?
Don't God's people feel like He does? WAIT…MY BAD, MY BAD!
I forgot why unholy people are still being allowed to fellowship
with the holy people at FGHT. Their money is needed so the
million-dollar building can remain beautiful and paid for.
Their money is needed to pay the salaries and other expenses
of those who are on staff. Their money is needed so the schools
and programs of the church can continue to operate. Excuse
me, I lost my head there for a minute. I apologize.
And lastly, the statement that totally wore me out was when
Apostle Murray said…"When God gives people up, there's nothing
a preacher or anyone can do. These people are GONE. There
is NO WAY for them to get saved." I don't know about anyone
else, but I thought apostles were ministers of the Gospel
of Jesus Christ. And I thought the gospel was the "good news"
about God's love for all people expressed in the person of
Jesus Christ. That statement doesn't sound like the gospel
to me. And furthermore, what has Apostle Murray just told
the gays and lesbians in his congregation? In essence, he's
told them that their coming to church, worshipping God, and
trying to get closer to Him is a futile waste of time. He's
told them that they are stupid because even though there is
no hope for them, they still come to his church and support
his ministry with their time, talent, and money. They are
fools for allowing themselves to be used like whores are used
by pimps. He's told them that he (Apostle Murray) is unholy
too. He's being disobedient. If holiness has no fellowship
with unholy and should be separated, he's committing sin by
fellowshipping with unholy people.
One of the things that Apostle Murray says repeatedly in
this sermon is that "God's house is a house of prayer." And
every time he quotes that verse, he never completes it. God
said "my house shall be a house of prayer FOR ALL PEOPLE".
This sermon is proof that even though God is interested in
ALL PEOPLE, and even though "A Church for All People" is displayed
prominently on the FGHT website….ALL PEOPLE are not welcome
at Full Gospel Holy Temple except for the purpose of giving
their money. Why else would people rejected by God be welcomed
at a "holy" church?